lisa! that's enough! i already told you, we're going to wait for you. dude, if you leave at 5 and get to Kress' or wherever we happen to be meeting, we will still make it in time for the doors opening. i've travelled many a time to la in traffic and max the drive was 90 minutes. and even if we're not there in time to park at the front of the stage, i will be wearing my tall shoes. no worries and no more arguing!